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Monday, 8 September 2008

Hmmm..try read this post..

(Ron here, 2nd edit made on 10sep08, with bits of my thoughts in blue)

Hey there..those of you who have been there during sunday youth class last sunday, remember that at the end, Eva mentioned something about the testimonies of the revelation of heaven and hell by 7 columbian youths? For those of you who are reading this and didn't see Ivan's post about the thing in one of the previous posts, in short, as quoted in the website,

'Together as a group, these 7 Columbian youths were taken by Jesus Christ and shown Heaven and Hell. Hear their account of the Glories of Heaven and misery of Hell.
'.

You can check the website out here from which i've gotten the quote above.

For your information if you haven't checked out the site, the testimonies by the 7 Columbian youths were actually given 13 years ago.

What Aunty Tuan Ghee replied to Eva was if Jesus really had gone down to hell, He would have transformed it into Heaven. Eva, Ivan and i continued talking about the matter after the class so i felt maybe i should share something about it here.

Well, i haven't yet gotten the time to go read the testimonies of the revelation in the website but i managed to spend some time looking through the Bible regarding the matter.

The whole chapter of Matthew 24 is 'Signs of the End of the Age'. It's quite long, including about the signs of Christ's 2nd Coming but you should read it up to better equip yourself. In the chapter,

4 Jesus answered: "Watch out that no one deceives you.
5 For many will come in my name, claiming, 'I am the Christ,' and will deceive many.

23 At that time if anyone says to you, 'Look, here is the Christ!' or, 'There He is!' do not believe it.
24 For false Christs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and miracles to deceive even the elect- if that were possible.


So could it be that Satan's just appearing as Christ and brought them to, maybe for real, hell? But since that can even perform great signs and miracles could the heaven the 7 Columbian youths saw was just made up by Satan?

From the beginning of the 1st testimony i just read (i didn't get to finish reading) when typing this, the person who testified said they 'had just begun to know about God and His Word'. So could that have been why at the end of Matthew 24:24, Jesus said "..to deceive even the elect- if that is possible."? Note the 'if that is possible', the notes in my Study Bible said 'the context indicates it is possible.'.

The whole chapter of Mark 13 is also similar with what Jesus said regarding the signs of the end of the age so you can read that too.

In 2 Corinthians 11, Paul the Apostle wrote about other false apostles that had invaded the Corinthian church and 'presented a Jesus cast in mold of Judaistic teaching' (quoted from the notes of my Study Bible) and preached a different gospel. In verses 13-15, he wrote:

'13For such men are false apostles, deceitful workmen, masquerading as apostles of Christ.
14 And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light.
15 It is not surprising, then, if his servants masquerade as servants of righteousness. Their end will be what their actions deserve.'


I only then recalled reading these verses before back in church on sunday after the youth class, and thought of the possibility of Satan masquerading as Christ to the 7 Columbian youths.

In conclusion, i only wanted to share about the verses i've found, written above. i suppose i'll talk more about it after i've finished reading the testimonies..after my a-levels, unfortunately. But whoever reading this and has read the testimonies (or if hasn't) and wanna say anything, i mean anything, just leave your comment to this post. Thanks.

9 comments:

Perry R. Lim said...

Hi Ronan.

This is coming from an English Teacher's point of view:

Huh?

Anonymous said...

Huh? is it my english was bad in that post? or what i wrote made no sense? i'll try to edit the post then..i was rushing to finish the post yesterday..

Perry R. Lim said...

Hi Ronan.

After I reread your post, it made better sense. Probably, you just needed to link the bible verses you quoted with what you were saying about the Columbians' testimonies clearly.

Btw, I've read the testimonies. It was interesting reading, but I'll still stick to what the Bible says.

p.s. Oh, I didn't read anything about the glories of heaven that they were supposed to talk about in their testimonies.

ron l. said...

Really? i dunno..i've linked the website i've referring and edited my post again. I suppose i can only probably link the the Bible verses with what i think after i finish reading throught the testimonies.

Or maybe 'cause i'm not quite sure what you mean by

"you just needed to link the bible verses you quoted with what you were saying about the Columbians' testimonies clearly."

Hopefully what i've edited did that, haha.

p.s. Thanks for visitting the blog by the way! and improving my English too.

[ ♥ тαммι ¢нєяιѕє ] said...

HAHAHAHAHAHA THE FIRST COMMENT WAS SO FUNNY HAHAHAHAHAHAH *dies of laughter*.

ron l. said...

*sobs* haha

Anonymous said...

nvm ron i somehow managed to figure what ur trying to say.. :D
haha prolly its coz we're all at the same wavelength ;)

Ivan said...

o.O "run, Simba(ronan), and never come back"

Book Town said...

Okay... Rush in Time while reading
Really can't finish reading it
Coz I'm really busy *SORRY!*
So I keep skipping some words and sentences...
I'll take another time to read it...
Oh and wow the posts...
SO MANY OH MAN!
I cant online all the time...